indeed that fact alone is solely (in my opinion) why the beatles are the best band ever, is that a song that someone thinks maybe is just horrible can RIGHTLY SO be someone elses favorite song from them.
but doesn't that go for any band? (I mean, not like, a rubber band, but you know what I mean) It's like The Beatles always get the benefit of the doubt no matter what? Why do you say "rightfully so" as if it's more rightfully so than any other band?
because it is. and no it doesnt go for any other band.
Yeah, don't you think that's an insanely ignorant thing to say? I don't want to get into the whole Beatles debate again, and I certainly have nothing against your opinion personally. However, what else, in existence, without explanation, could you say is as DEFINITE as your Beatles opinion??? It's like you're putting The Beatles on the same level as a belief in God or something.
I find the whole "because it is" mentality to be sickening. It's like a rapist justifying his actions with "because I had to." Seriously. When do you hear people so certain of things, without offering explanations to back the things up,
and without thinking an explanation is necessary? It's not very common unless you're insane. It sounds stupid and evil to me. And we're talking about your opinion--which you clearly stated--about other people's opinions regarding favorite songs of A BAND. Remember when your mom and dad would say "because I said so?" How annoyed would you get at that? People say "because it is" when they have nothing else to say. They think it's an
end-all, bottom line, argument winner. But it's just an argument
ender which marks every point made, up 'til that statement, completely invalid and pointless. Basically, you just wasted everyone's time.
I believe in karma although I can't really explain it. If someone told me karma wasn't real, what good would it do of me to say: "yes it is, I know it is because it is." Okay, great for me, and I'd probably believe that regardless, but what point does it make to say it? If someone asked me "why do you believe that?" and I said "because it's true," that person really doesn't understand anymore than he did to begin with, right? I think it's insulting to shoot down questions of people who are clearly interested in a certain idea or discussion.
"I'd rather not talk about it" is more polite and insightful than "because it is."With you, I Like Ozma, you're simply talking about a song someone hates could be someone else's favorite song. How is this any different from any other band? My ex-girlfriend HATES listening to The Get Up Kids and The Casket Lottery (two of my favorite bands), however, I love them. There's one personal experience right there. Same with people who like heavy/death metal. I don't like it, but it could, rightfully so, be someone's favorite kind of music?
Had you said "indeed the fact alone that they had more #1 hits than any band ever, makes them the best band ever" I couldn't have argued that. The interpretation of "best" for you would then be "best by popular opinion and sales," and that seems valid enough. But you can't define your interpretation of "best" the way you used it and justified it.
You basically isolated the basic concept of human opinion [liking/disliking], applied it to The Beatles discography, and then DENIED it applicable to any other band's discography. Don't you think human beings deserve a bit more respect than that. Is everyone really wrong, aside from you and other Beatles sympathizers?
Are you fucking kidding me?I had no qualms with the Moses on Drugs discussion, because in the end, you're either right and are going to heaven and you can laugh at Rodney all the way there,
or you're wrong, and both Rodney and you are dead and no one knows any better. But we're talking about a fucking band here, and that's it. "Because it is" does not grant you eternal salvation or simply let you live your life in happiness. "Because it is" pisses off and frustrates people (like me) --and seriously, I really have nothing against you, it's just the whole discussion that practically makes me ill. So, I'm sorry if these seems personal--had you been the first I'd ever heard this from I could have dismissed you as a fool and ignored it all. Although, as you know, this isn't an uncommon occurrence. So maybe I'm wrong about The Beatles not being the best since everyone and his brother seems to agree with you. However, I won't back down for a second on the "because it is. and no it doesnt go for any other band" discussion. I feel like that's only a hostile remark to piss people off... Stuff like this makes me wish people would have something important DISPROVED for them so they can see what it's like to not always be right when they think they're right, and realize that it's not the end of the world to have made a mistake about something. Then at least, people wouldn't be so sure of everything. That much self-importance is dangerous as shit.
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