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[Oatmeal]

ozma cover at a birthday party in 1999

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8GLlJoii_I

[brad]

holy cow!  thanks -- thats awesome, post more if possible

[Oatmeal]

Yeah. I did not expect to find this. Hopefully that guy will post more from that show.

[Not Jason]

Oh man, that's OLD.  Pre-RRP3.  Thanks for the link Oatmeal!

[I Like Ozma]

Its good to see ryen looks exactly the same - minus a head of hair.

[Not Jason]

The thing that makes it weird for me is seeing all that old gear.  Dan's old P-bass, Jose's old strat.  It's weird to think that back when I was way into Ozma, this would have already been ancient.  At this point it's prehistoric.

[noonchild]

There's something very odd about this video...

[jvstin]

love it. db isn't in the band yet. neither is star (?). and ryen wasn't quite a monster guitarist yet... unless he was super drunk.

[edit] or is that db with black hair!? weiiird. come to think of it, that looks like star. maybe i shouldn't post. ever.

[noonchild]

love it. db isn't in the band yet. neither is star (?). and ryen wasn't quite a monster guitarist yet... unless he was super drunk.

[edit] or is that db with black hair!? weiiird. come to think of it, that looks like star. maybe i shouldn't post. ever.

These were the questions and concerns I had myself. 

[brad]

thats db

[I Like Ozma]

yeah thats db, his hair is just dyed black or something. its hard to say about star tho, i dont think thats her but maybe...

[ozmadoodle]

Having seen all their keyboadists, it is definitely not Katherine K (original), nor Mary Guilliams (sub).  That girl in the video is the one and only, Starling Wick.  That's her hair style when she first joined Ozma.

[I Like Ozma]

Why is it definately not Katherine?

[ozmadoodle]

Katherine's hair is medium length and kept it same style unlike Star who changed style and color constantly.

[Not Jason]

love it. db isn't in the band yet. neither is star (?). and ryen wasn't quite a monster guitarist yet... unless he was super drunk.

[edit] or is that db with black hair!? weiiird. come to think of it, that looks like star. maybe i shouldn't post. ever.

I can assure you that both of them were in the band in 1999.  Dan was in the band for the first demo tapes, which were 1996 at the latest.  In this video, he is playing his old tape-decorated P-Bass, codenamed the Delorean.  Star would have been fairly new at this point, but I think she was integrated in like late 98ish?  You can tell it's her because she is sporting what I still think of as the classic Star look.  It is beyond weird to me that there are Ozma fans who only think of her with black hair and fashionable clothes.  It's weird to me in general that there are fans of Ozma who weren't around in like 2000-2003.  I don't mean to pull some kind of elitist bullshit about it, but to me, Ozma is so inseparably tied to that era, that I can't even imagine what it would have been like to find out about them later.  It's true that the music is all still the same as it was, but you definitely missed out on an urgency and enthusiasm that was present during that time.  Man, I'm fucking old.

[Oatmeal]

Yeah she looks fairly similar in the double donkey disk CD booklet and the guk/weezer tour picture

[jvstin]

love it. db isn't in the band yet. neither is star (?). and ryen wasn't quite a monster guitarist yet... unless he was super drunk.

[edit] or is that db with black hair!? weiiird. come to think of it, that looks like star. maybe i shouldn't post. ever.

I can assure you that both of them were in the band in 1999.  Dan was in the band for the first demo tapes, which were 1996 at the latest.  In this video, he is playing his old tape-decorated P-Bass, codenamed the Delorean.  Star would have been fairly new at this point, but I think she was integrated in like late 98ish?  You can tell it's her because she is sporting what I still think of as the classic Star look.  It is beyond weird to me that there are Ozma fans who only think of her with black hair and fashionable clothes.  It's weird to me in general that there are fans of Ozma who weren't around in like 2000-2003.  I don't mean to pull some kind of elitist bullshit about it, but to me, Ozma is so inseparably tied to that era, that I can't even imagine what it would have been like to find out about them later.  It's true that the music is all still the same as it was, but you definitely missed out on an urgency and enthusiasm that was present during that time.  Man, I'm fucking old.

i got into them around 2002-2003. joined the OOF in 2003.

[brad]

love it. db isn't in the band yet. neither is star (?). and ryen wasn't quite a monster guitarist yet... unless he was super drunk.

[edit] or is that db with black hair!? weiiird. come to think of it, that looks like star. maybe i shouldn't post. ever.

I can assure you that both of them were in the band in 1999.  Dan was in the band for the first demo tapes, which were 1996 at the latest.  In this video, he is playing his old tape-decorated P-Bass, codenamed the Delorean.  Star would have been fairly new at this point, but I think she was integrated in like late 98ish?  You can tell it's her because she is sporting what I still think of as the classic Star look.  It is beyond weird to me that there are Ozma fans who only think of her with black hair and fashionable clothes.  It's weird to me in general that there are fans of Ozma who weren't around in like 2000-2003.  I don't mean to pull some kind of elitist bullshit about it, but to me, Ozma is so inseparably tied to that era, that I can't even imagine what it would have been like to find out about them later.  It's true that the music is all still the same as it was, but you definitely missed out on an urgency and enthusiasm that was present during that time.  Man, I'm fucking old.

i got into them around 2002-2003. joined the OOF in 2003.

[I Like Ozma]

I remember i just barely heard of them when Spending time was coming out

[Oatmeal]

love it. db isn't in the band yet. neither is star (?). and ryen wasn't quite a monster guitarist yet... unless he was super drunk.

[edit] or is that db with black hair!? weiiird. come to think of it, that looks like star. maybe i shouldn't post. ever.

I can assure you that both of them were in the band in 1999.  Dan was in the band for the first demo tapes, which were 1996 at the latest.  In this video, he is playing his old tape-decorated P-Bass, codenamed the Delorean.  Star would have been fairly new at this point, but I think she was integrated in like late 98ish?  You can tell it's her because she is sporting what I still think of as the classic Star look.  It is beyond weird to me that there are Ozma fans who only think of her with black hair and fashionable clothes.  It's weird to me in general that there are fans of Ozma who weren't around in like 2000-2003.  I don't mean to pull some kind of elitist bullshit about it, but to me, Ozma is so inseparably tied to that era, that I can't even imagine what it would have been like to find out about them later.  It's true that the music is all still the same as it was, but you definitely missed out on an urgency and enthusiasm that was present during that time.  Man, I'm fucking old.

i got into them around 2002-2003. joined the OFF in 2005.

[FortyTwo]

I can assure you that both of them were in the band in 1999.  Dan was in the band for the first demo tapes, which were 1996 at the latest.  In this video, he is playing his old tape-decorated P-Bass, codenamed the Delorean.  Star would have been fairly new at this point, but I think she was integrated in like late 98ish?  You can tell it's her because she is sporting what I still think of as the classic Star look.  It is beyond weird to me that there are Ozma fans who only think of her with black hair and fashionable clothes.  It's weird to me in general that there are fans of Ozma who weren't around in like 2000-2003.  I don't mean to pull some kind of elitist bullshit about it, but to me, Ozma is so inseparably tied to that era, that I can't even imagine what it would have been like to find out about them later.  It's true that the music is all still the same as it was, but you definitely missed out on an urgency and enthusiasm that was present during that time.  Man, I'm fucking old.

I feel the same way about pretty much everything you said there...

EDIT:  Hah signed on for the first time in years, guess I never used this account much... 6 posts. Glad to see I have a -1 karma, wonder what that was....

[cesarsalad]

my first ozma show was in either 2001 or 2002. my favorite show of them was when we carpooled to san diego from LA to see them play at UCSD. i remember the setlist being awesome. sadly i think this was the day of the space shuttle crash (or the day after), so when they did landing of yuri gagarin there was a dedication, or something. i wish we could search ozma shows by date, does anyone have such a list?

there was definitely a lot of excitement in the air. i liked that my favorite band could play in these intimate shows and i could be right up front, but i'd rather them have hit it big. there's a lot of nostalgia when i think back to those days, and how i'd get more and more friends to come with me to ozma shows...